teachers union said because of my program, educators all over the country feel that they have been kicked in the teeth. >> bill: so these people hate you. >> many of them do. i don't think i'm anti-teacher. i am antiunion. she's now making 400,000 a year. >> i had done the show called stupid in america that raised this issue of school choice. let there be competition. that's what makes everything better. and they were so furious, 600 showed up outside my office. they screamed, teach john, teach, then you'll know what teaching is like. i said i would and they changed their mind. >> bill: that was eight years ago when things have gotten worse in america, haven't they? >> no. well, in many cases, in many cities, yes. but what's gotten better is now there is a school choice movement. more charter schools. >> there is a movement, but opposed by the current administration, it's opposed by the president and democratic party. >> even in the obama administration to some extent are saying, hey, we got to have some choice. we got to rate the teachers.